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We finalized my mother's funeral arrangements yesterday covered by her funeral trust. My sister suggested having a dinner with family and some close friends after mother's funeral.



My mother has a bank account that my sisters and I are signatories on. We have not notified the bank yet that she is deceased. My sister says we should pay for this dinner in cash out of our mother's account.



My mother was also on Medicaid. There cash balance is within the amount Medicaid allows to cover house expenses under the right to turn rules. Would Medicaid have a problem with taking probably what would be $1,000 out of her account to pay for a funeral dinner? We are going to have to pay Medicaid something since we were within the 5 year look back when my mother applied for Medicaid. A large part of the house sale will go to satisfying this.



My other sister is the executor of the estate, I know she will ultimately have to decide. I don't want something foolish like this to come back to haunt us.



I really wanted to split the bill three ways, my sister has plenty of money and it shouldn't be a problem for her to pay her third. I am inclined just not doing anything quite frankly.

If someone is on Moms bankacct, I would get the money out before the bank finds out she was dead.
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I would ask the banker.
If there is a way you can get this out get it out NOW.
There isn't a way this can come back to bite you and if it does no one will bother for this amount I do believe. And if so, simply plead ignorance. The banker won't let it out if he can't. He either has to seal this account for the executor and her new EIN or he doesn't.
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Are you talking about the asset amount allowed? That becomes part of Moms estate. Medicaid cannot touch it. They also can't touch the balance left in the Personal Needs acct. That also is part of Moms estate. So, I see no problem in using her bank acct. My Moms trust only covered the funeral. If I had more, the trust was allowed to cover the flowers and maybe the luncheon. Mom's spenddown took her down to $186. So no money for flowers or a luncheon.

Executorship does not come into play until the Will is probated. That takes 9 or 10 days from death. The Executor will get a short certificate to handle Moms finances. Medicaid will do a recovery. I was able to get the amount owed from Moms caseworker. This gave me an idea of what I needed to get for Moms house. The lien was placed on the house. The house has to be sold at Market Value. If Medicaid lien goes beyond that they get the proceeds. If under, then the beneficiaries will get something. Or gives you a little wiggle room to negotiate price. Tax liens get satisfied before Medicaid.
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Split the bill 3 ways. Don’t involve deceased funds. Personally, I’d wait about 6 months before some big dinner. See where the dust settles. If people are that hungry after the funeral and burial, make sandwiches and chips and some cookies. Ask the church or friends or family to provide. Maybe provide some ice cream or beer. Sit around and talk about the deceased, family memories and review old photos. Save the money. You may need it.
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I’m not positive if it would come back on you with Medicaid or not, but having been through this twice, I’m not sure anyone is really a fan, if they’re honest, of these post funeral dinners. After both of my parent’s funerals, well, really during as well, I was emotionally so tired and just wanted it to be over. You’ve all had a long road, be sure everyone really wants this, considering the risk and the tiredness. Wishing you peace whatever is chosen
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I wouldnt recommend it. Sounds like it could just wind up being another headache everyone will have to deal with down the road. Just split the bill 3 ways this way no issues and you can reimburse yourselves once moms estate is settled.
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Meant to respond to wtm.
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I can not answer your ( Medicaid concern) question.

Your last sentence struck me though .
“ I am inclined just not doing anything …”

If your father is not going to be at the dinner, don’t feel obligated to go .

I am totally not the party after funeral type person in general . I went after my Dad’s funeral because I was my mother’s ride to the “ after party “ and because my mother expected all her children to attend, and to be supportive of Mom .

I did not meet up with other family after my mother’s funeral , I went home .
A long caregiving slog was over and I had to deal with the emotions in my own way .

If anything I would probably visit your Dad in the nursing home instead after the funeral if he could not leave the facility to attend .
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Hothouseflower Jun 16, 2024
Not sure if he can attend the funeral yet. Depends on whether he has medical clearance. We will see. If his doctor doesn't think it is okay, then that's it. The funeral home is less than a mile from the nursing home. We intend to have an ambulette for transport.

He certainly won't be attending the dinner. That would be too much.
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